Following the revelation that Apple’s top lawyer Bruce Sewell will testify before Congress this coming week over encryption, another attorney for the company has sat down with CNN to discuss the ongoing case. In the interview, current Apple lawyer and former United States solicitor general Ted Olson discussed how what the government is asking Apple to do is “limitless.”

Olson explained that if the tool that the government wants is created, any judge anywhere could essentially order to listen to any customer’s conversation, track location, and much more. The lawyer likened it to a Orwellian “big brother” type society.

When pressed about how Apple could potentially help fight terrorism by creating a tool to access locked devices, Olson explained that while Apple will help the government defeat terrorism in every way that it can, it can’t be done by breaking the Constitution. It was reported earlier this week that Apple plans to argue that the digital signature it uses to validate code is protected by the First Amendment as free speech.

Olson also said, however, that if the United States Supreme Court should rule in favor of court’s request to unlock the device he can’t imagine a situation in which Apple would defy a ruling from the Supreme Court, implying that Apple will comply if ordered to do so by the higher court. Olson added that he doesn’t see that happening though, as he and Apple are very confident in their argument.

You can watch the interview below:

Apple’s battle with the FBI over national security versus user privacy began last week and has since become one of the biggest and most complex stories in tech and politics. You can view all of our extensive coverage at the links below:

  • U.S. judge orders Apple to help FBI access data on San Bernardino gunman’s iPhone 5c
  • Apple publishes letter responding to FBI iPhone unlock demand: ‘an unprecedented step which threatens the security of our customers’
  • Google CEO Pichai appears to side with Apple in series of vague tweets on FBI encryption battle
  • Security firm shows how Apple could bypass iPhone security to comply with FBI request
  • Opinion: How likely is Apple to succeed in resisting the FBI court order?
  • Should Apple comply with FBI request to bypass San Bernardino gunman’s iPhone? [Poll]
  • Civil rights groups and tech companies express support for Apple’s stand against the FBI
  • Opinion: Why an iPhone master key is better than a backdoor, but still too dangerous
  • Petition urges White House to support Apple in blocking government access to locked iPhones
  • Senate Intelligence Committee considering bill to penalize companies refusing to decrypt user device
  • Report: Apple to get more time to formally respond to government’s request for access to locked iPhone
  • Apple/FBI fight looks destined to go all the way to the Supreme Court as more background is revealed
  • Department of Justice files motion to force Apple to comply with FBI iPhone backdoor request
  • Apple implies FBI screwup: iPhone Apple ID password changed in govt possession, backdoor unnecessary
  • FBI explains why it changed Apple ID password in iPhone unlock case, retrieved iCloud backups up to October 19 but wants more
  • San Bernardino victims divided on iPhone issue as FBI claims not trying to set a precedent
  • Apple/FBI: Tim Cook sends memo to employees, wants government to drop All Writs Act demands, posts customer FAQ
  • Edward Snowden describes how the FBI could physically extract passcode from iPhone chip without Apple’s help
  • Mark Zuckerberg sides w/ Apple in encryption battle as poll suggests public supports FBI
  • Report says DOJ seeking data from ‘about’ 12 other iPhones as Bill Gates sides with FBI
  • Report: Apple to argue that encryption battle with FBI should be decided by Congress
  • Bloomberg: Apple will argue that the digital signature it uses to validate code is protected as free speech
  • Tim Cook says tool to unlock iPhone is the ‘software equivalent of cancer’ in new interview
  • Apple working on stronger iCloud backup encryption and iPhone security to counter FBI unlock requests
  • Apple’s top lawyer Bruce Sewell to testify before Congress over encryption next week
  • Apple officially responds to court request to comply with FBI in San Bernardino iPhone case
  • Report: Google, Twitter, Facebook, & Microsoft to file court motions officially supporting Apple in FBI fight
  • FBI director admits under oath that iPhone case would set a precedent; public & Republican candidates still on FBI side
  • San Bernardino police chief takes sides in Apple’s encryption battle with the FBI

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